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  1. anadieseladoy

    anadieseladoy Forum Greenhorn

    http://prntscr.com/9vrjn2 Hello first time posting in the forum even know i have been playing for a long time i just wanted to see if you guys could give some tips since i just got to 50(3 days ago exactly after a almost 8 month break from the game)
    http://prntscr.com/9vrkxf this is my amulet that i got from the pvp merchant and its helping me a lot with hp so far
    http://prntscr.com/9vrlezthis in my legen ring what do you guys think about it?
    http://prntscr.com/9vrlwi this my new axe that i got once i got to 50 i want to know what do you think about it too
    http://prntscr.com/9vrmct this is torso that i got just today and want to know what you guys think about it

    What am really looking for are some tips to get me started in lvl 50 i have been asking people in other places and it has not been helping so i came here.. i want to know what you guys think about my items and if you guys could give me like a mini guide because right now am trying to get to atleast 3k dmg and like 40% critical.
    and i wanted to know what is the new "map 2" now in lvl 50 i mean like the place where everyone goes to farm their legens glyphs and etc. sorry for all the confusing paragraps my english is not the best. but if you guys could tell me specifically what to do to get to the stats i want to get specially in the offensive area thanks for you for your time and am really sorry if the paragraghs are confusing.
     
    Last edited: Jan 28, 2016
  2. Welcome to the EN forums. I recomend that you take a quick look around the DSO guide (link in the signature below) and take a look at some of the tips and tricks for forum posting. Particularly, pay attention to the guide on how to post a screenshot as it would make your post more meaningful and easier to read if the pictures don't need to be clicked on to be seen.
     
  3. _Baragain_

    _Baragain_ Living Forum Legend

    Ok, here we go...

    Biggest thing you need is to work on your knowledge tree. What knowledge level are you? I'm sure that as those points go up, so will your damage and HP, but for the time being, both are rather low, especially considering you are using 3/3 keen's and the Warlord set. You have some nice/respectable items, but without the knowledge to back it up, you'll feel the difference. If that is your only character, you ought to make an alt on the same account to work on it's knowledge tree too. When you hit the same knowledge level as your DK, you can start leapfrogging the knowledge points between the two accounts and level up your knowledge on your DK three times faster. Other than that, you seem to be on the right track. Just keep making small incremental improvements, replacing items as you go and improve that knowledge level and you will be good to go. For advice on items or skills, check out out the thread that was started by battlefist5 discussing building a strong crit oriented DK. Beware, it is a little long winded (because I participated), but I think it should be helpful.

    Hope it helps.
     
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  4. Morinphen

    Morinphen Forum Overlooker

    Stats are nice! You could replace uniques with updated, lv50 versions when the time comes (Dragan) and free up some glyphs (Keen set also scales now).

    That amulet is pretty cool.

    Same for the ring.

    Axe is alright too.

    Torso is nice.

    Well, can't say much... you're doing good. So, I guess, just farm PWs and optimize as best as you can. IDK what the new "M2" is... but I see people mention Q3 quite a lot. Might be wrong on that one, though.
     
  5. Novadude

    Novadude Commander of the Forum

    I agree with what everybody is saying above - get your wisdom up to 50, so that you can have 50 points - my 2H dk goes 25 in increased damage, 15 in increased hp, and 10 in that 50% increased weapon damage skill. If you're near a speed breakpoint you might invest a point or 2 to get over it. And the time the dragan event comes, hopefully you can farm it enough to get level 50 pieces and free up glyphs.

    Since your axe is nice and hopefully came with 3 slots, it might be worth it to farm the anders so that you can open up all the slots for about 6000 anders so that you can put 2 more rubies in there to take advantage of the increased weapon damage.
     
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  6. anadieseladoy

    anadieseladoy Forum Greenhorn

    am sorry for putting a link again but am in a hurry atm i just wanted to see wich one would you guys tell me to pick here and please dont look at the glyphs i dont think they are relevant here just the items.
    http://prntscr.com/9wpdft
     
  7. thebearreturns

    thebearreturns Exceptional Talent

    They look very close each other... Take a look if you need more crit hit or dmg....
     
  8. _Baragain_

    _Baragain_ Living Forum Legend

    It could go either way based on how much you need crit.

    The 2/2 is a little better if you just look at the quality of the lines. The max for a crit line is 249 and the max for a damage line is 35. So, in the 2/2, the crit lines are 87.6% of max and 90.4% of max with an average of 89.0% of the max for 2 lines. Damage is 77.1% and 80% for an average of 78.6% of the max for 2 lines. Compared to the 3/1 item, you have an average of 79.4% of the max crit for 3 lines and 60% of the max damage for a single line.

    I know that you said to not pay attention to the glyphs, but based on the information above, I'd take 2.5M of the 3.0M that you have invested in the LVL 50 one and then it will be even better.
     
  9. .paschall.

    .paschall. Junior Expert

    [​IMG] [​IMG] [Q which sword is better?? the one with crit i gain 7% chr which would be 37%chr lose 18 damage-other has 30%chr but 80 more damage-is gaining chr worth losing damage??
     
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  10. _Baragain_

    _Baragain_ Living Forum Legend

    Unless you have some really nice gems, I'd say the LL 49 is a little better, especially given how much it would cost to open slots on the 50. Can you edit your post so that we can see it with character stats too?
     
  11. .paschall.

    .paschall. Junior Expert

    the 50 has twice weapon damage i guestimated i lose 18-33 dmg and gain 7% chr with the 50-how many extra crit hits would i get going from 30 to 37% chr??
     
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  12. _Baragain_

    _Baragain_ Living Forum Legend

    Ok, looking at the math, with the LVL 50, you'd gain 6.2 % crit chance with the LVL 50 weapon, but, even before considering gems, there is a 41.5 average damage difference in favor of the LVL 49. Assuming you use the 10 point 50% weapon damage, that becomes 62 damage difference. Now, assuming at least 30% damage from the knowledge points and the 10% damage you get from 3/5 Darkness items, that 62 damage accounts for 87 damage. At this point I'd say the crit is more beneficial. However, lets do a little gem math.

    The LVL 50 only has 2 slots, so unless you plan to spend a good chunk of ander to open slots on a sword that is mediocre, you would only gain 22*2*(1+0.4976+0.5)*(1+0.3+0.1)=123 damage once you socket gems (assuming the same knowledge distribution above. However, on the LVL 49, you'd gain (22*3+16)*(1+0.2429+0.5)*(1+0.3+0.1)=200 damage once you socket the gems. Now, the LVL 49 sword means a gain of 164 damage at the loss of 6.2% crit chance.

    So, my final recommendation, the LVL 49 one for now, but never stop looking for something better as both weapons are just OK 1H swords... That, or join the ranks of the 2H DKs and have fun soloing.
     
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    mirko1234567 Active Author

  14. nsondker

    nsondker Forum Greenhorn

    Glass cannon anyone? :D

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    Oh and these legendary extraordinary speed gloves :p:

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    Crafted hammer:

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    And which one would you guys choose to go along with the hammer?

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  15. TheDe4thTr4nce

    TheDe4thTr4nce Someday Author

    Hi all.. This is my current progress as a 1h. :) I just got this new seal (lvl50 one).. I will get about 12.76%cd and some more chr.. I do have enough chr already but anything from crit department are always welcomed. And now I wonder if losing 55 dmg is worth it (3/5 Dark set gives 10% and I usually set 20-25 points on wisdom talent).

    Btw, the lvl49 Seal will be 222chr and 57dmg on lvl 50.


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    I'd choose the one with 3 lines of chr. Nice hammer btw.
     
  16. .paschall.

    .paschall. Junior Expert

    thx i was gonna open 2 more slots on 50 but didnt know about the 50 having double weapon damage and chr whether it was better-gems r 3/22 2/16
     
  17. thebearreturns

    thebearreturns Exceptional Talent

    my farming stats:

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    and my pvp stats for flags (not bearer... just support):

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    BUT, this evening found a 2h hammer: +100 dmg, 90.46% weap dmg, 1507 crit hit; i think it is a better "axe" than my current, it gives me this changes to evaluate (with same gems and glyphs):
    -218 min basic dmg
    +248 max basic dmg
    +142 crit hit 1789 vs 1647

    new stats (but spent almost my whole anders :( )

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    Last edited: Feb 5, 2016
  18. Mario_Boss

    Mario_Boss Regular


    now my question is...can you farm fatal map with "farm" set?
    i just love love loveeeeeeee your pvp set and i would go for farm with that set (oh yeah just put dark gloves on for better att speed)

    p.s. and love gems and gop
     
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  19. _Baragain_

    _Baragain_ Living Forum Legend

    In my "Farm" set, I can farm fatal. I don't have quite as much DPS as Bearer, but I have almost twice as much HP and 5x more resistance than that farm build.
     
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  20. thebearreturns

    thebearreturns Exceptional Talent

    Yea, cause this "farm set" is just for q3 easy (gop), you farm gop faster there than lethal :) i'm working on a mix set for pve-pvp but not easy :( cause i cannot fit all diamonds and amethysts there