Blue essence drop rate

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  1. pydragons

    pydragons Padavan

    After the new PW's I have noticed that my stacks of blue essence are rapidly decreasing without any sign of steady replenishment.
    Where do you farm blue essence nowadays, except Jesters?
    And, do you face the same problem as me, am I doing something wrong here?
     
  2. silverseas

    silverseas Count Count

    Make an ess efficient build. Low speed, high damage/crit, high resource pool so you only have to spam attacks that are actually worth it. :)
     
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  3. pydragons

    pydragons Padavan

    Making a build in DSO takes years.
    I have low 1.45 atk speed and 135 concentration.

    Problem is I dont find enough blue ess to keep with what I'm wasting at fatal bosses.
     
  4. Rhysingstar

    Rhysingstar Forum Ambassador

    I've noticed the same thing, but I'm sure the "official" answer is it depends on luck like everything else. I only use blues on the boss runs, but my stash is dwindling fast.
     
  5. BigPapa

    BigPapa Forum Overlooker

    I don't believe there is a difference in drop rate. I think we are just using it much more frequently than we were before. Only place you needed blues before the new PW's was Khaly, Mort, and the occasional event boss. I used it sparingly just to make grps go faster. Now we use it all the time in the new PW's so even those slow accumulations we used to get by doing general farming are in a negative slide. It is a result of DSO philosphy that making something harder means giving it more HP instead of making it more difficult to kill by upgrading the fight mechanic or mob ability.
     
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  6. Szmaciak

    Szmaciak Junior Expert

    Sorry, clear your glasses BigPapa. After 155 BP very reduced blue ess drop. Players of all nations noticed it. Same with anders. Now we use them less often because is rare and it is hard to loot and stack them. Before 155 after 2-3 race at q3 or q4 I had 40k of them. Now after a week of farming at PW, not. We always used them at Khaly and events and often at others hardbosses, now I can see that people rather don't use it at norm PW, even at bosses and sting a group about this.
     
  7. BigPapa

    BigPapa Forum Overlooker

    I above all else, believe the drop rates I see, not the ones others feel are happening to them or repeat to others. For example; people are complaining about the Realm Frag drops in another thread and the dev's are going to raise the drop rate. The 3700 i still have in inventory after extensive runs in moon events for the new sets and the DoE event tell me they are not so bad. As does the 5k of 10k counter that tells me exactly how many ive collected since the achievement for them has gone in. I do silly things like farm temple for the bow that wont drop again for me, and Gleaming Mts for the steam set. During those runs I get plenty of medium sized drops of blue ess from fast kills. It may be true that the drop has been lowered; but despite what is being said it is not evident to me, I still have a chit ton to use. Reds and Purps, now thats a different story.
     
  8. Novadude

    Novadude Commander of the Forum

    I agree with BigPapa, I'm not seeing any drastic change in blue ess drops. I think people are just using it more in the harder PW levels. Myself, I'm overloaded with green ess at the moment and have even figured out how to do Mortis level 1 on green ess, so I expect to get overloaded on blue ess soon.

    If anything, I think ess and ander drops are up now that we have higher levels.
     
  9. tonariway

    tonariway Forum Apprentice

    Well, if people complains it means it happens.
    I feel lack of essences in PW maps, as well. Not even blue, like green too. I used to farm these essences in Cata as fast as i used them to kill mobs faster. My blue either green essences never stack in my inventory for long so i feel REAL lack of them after farming nowadays.
     
  10. BigPapa

    BigPapa Forum Overlooker

    No it means they think it happens. People complain to: 1) make themselves feel better 2) make others feel sorry for them 3) get something they don't deserve 4) identify an actual problem that should be changed or 5) comiserate with others to bond and be accepted. Most people have no idea what their actual drop rate is or they over represent it in their heads as past success. For example: Ander drop rates are way higher in the new PWs and Lor' Tac areas. This is a fact. But, people seem to remember them being so much higher before. This is innacurate.

    If anyone can offer proof that Essence and Ander drops are lower then lets have it and we can work on convincing the devs to adjust it. Otherwise it is all just heresay and "feeling" and in either case they will adjust it if they want.
     
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  11. pydragons

    pydragons Padavan

    Don't you remember catacombs drop rate of blues? It's not a feeling, that drop rate was simply higher than now.
     
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  12. BlueNote

    BlueNote Forum Greenhorn

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    There's definitely a poor drop of blue essences. I wouldn't want to say there's a decrease since I never had any prior experience with (the old) PW. Having said that, yesterday I completed 10 long Grimmag runs and only got 3 little drops.
    With this rate it's impossible to stack big (blue) essences numbers.

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  13. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    Everyone wants to have high attack speed ... since R155 everyone is spending their points on attack speed ... but the attack speed is consuming your essences much faster. Especially if your damage is not high enough.
    When I am farming the bosses in fatal mode (the only place where I am using % essences) I am lowering down my attack speed.

    As for the drops ... it depends what map you are playing. Since the old and the new PW are not the same you can't compare them.
    There are 2 ways of farming essences in PW
    1. if you are strong enough ... in fatal mode you have to make pretty quick runs ... without using essences or only green. That is why it is called farming not spending ... there is no point in farming blue essences while using blue essences. If you are not capable of killing the monsters without essences change the difficulty ... since you are not yet ready for that kind of farming.
    2. Farming PW maps in easiest mode. We made 10 runs in q3 yesterday ... i got +10K green essences and +5K blue essences.
    And again ... q3 is not the best farming place.
     
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  14. telebrion

    telebrion Forum Apprentice

    I get a fair amount of blues by farming Lor'tac maps for elite achievements. I imagine Blackborg and Varholm day maps might not be bad either, but i don't like to farm for the events so i usually don't run them that much. Before R155 I used to farm the skeleton mob in Ocean of Bones for essence and realm frags, but I don't think it's as good anymore, though I must admit I haven't run it as much as I used to.

    What concerns the question of whether the drop rate has been nerfed post R155 even assuming it hasn't other than in fatal difficulty stack sizes are smaller in current parallels compared to what they were in Q3-Q5 before R155. Chances are people aren't farming fatal maps as much as they were farming Q3-Q5 before R155.
     
  15. Rhysingstar

    Rhysingstar Forum Ambassador

    For the most part I believe that you are right, especially as to why people complain.

    I have seen much better ander drops and realm frags seem to be the same as they have always been. Yes, we now need more frags to enter, so I understand why players want more drops. Especially those who haven't been hoarding them.

    The blue ess drops do seem to be off for me, but it could be that I am experiencing bad luck at the moment or maybe I am not running the right maps at this particular time.

    Up through the last Dragan event, blue ess was falling considerably more often for me in the pw.

    Before the redo, cata/crypt was the place to farm blue ess, and while I personally love the new stone keep / crypt map for drops, it hasn't been a good place to farm ess.

    I have noticed a huge increase in the lvl 50 green ess drops, so maybe my luck has switched from getting the good ess to what I really don't need and all I ever use blue for is boss runs.
     
  16. silverseas

    silverseas Count Count

    1.45 attack speed is still loads faster than anything I've been using for a long, long time.

    Additionally, when it comes to fatal bosses, I have only been running with people I know and trust. I refuse to take a party that kind-of, sort-of, but not really, knows what they're doing. This allows me to consume only the ess I need to consume.

    There's a lot more bosses to use your blues on nowadays. I'm pretty sure no one spammed blues on Madok in old Grimmagstone PW, but I'm fairly certain a lot of people would use blues on Grimmag in the new Grimmagstone.

    I remember suiciding my way through cata. When you one-shot kill everything except bosses at zero cost to existing ess stocks, ofc drops were easy to get. ;D
     
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