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  1. SUPERDOUPER

    SUPERDOUPER Junior Expert

    im still confused, will the 3k royal staff that some have bought before r 155 get new stats or do we have to buy new staff
     
  2. nasowas

    nasowas Junior Expert

    2 questions. Are all of our gear stats going to be changed/nerfed when 155 goes live? And that 10% attack speed reduction, is it 10% of the weapon base speed or 10% of our total current attack speed with 2 handed weapons? If someone has 1,90 say attack speed with a staff thanks to gems and a lucky attribute or 2, it drops to which? 1,80 or 1,71?
     
  3. BigPapa

    BigPapa Forum Overlooker

    Mods: this is a redundant post, I wanted to ensure our CM's saw this and don't know if they review that portion of the forum's. Please delete the other thread if this is an issue.

    SUGGESTION: Currently the skill points will cap out once level 50 is reached. I suggest having a continued way of earning skill points with additional game play. This is a benchmarked process used by a few other games to allow max level characters to continue developing their toon in ways other than just chasing gear.

    It should be similar to gaining additional experience, but would not increase levels or other bonuses gained by leveling. The additional points should also cap out (recommend being able to earn an additional 25). Each additional point becomes more increasingly difficult to obtain through time/kills/achievements or whatever you feel is balanced and lends a degree of accomplishment and reward. Each new point should be more difficult to obtain than the last, and be honest motivation and reward for individuals to continue repeating elements of the game that progress them toward new points. Characters that have earned additional points would indeed have "earned" them.

    I further suggest making it a hidden progress bar. People know they are continually working toward the next point but don't know exactly when/where they will get it.
     
  4. _Baragain_

    _Baragain_ Living Forum Legend

    And this could also apply to the Knowledge tree as that is currently the one thing that is upsetting me most about this release.
     
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  5. fds667200

    fds667200 Forum Apprentice

    I like that suggestion. It would ensure long-term balance and give veteran players something to do. :)
     
  6. Darwarren

    Darwarren Count Count

    A hidden progress bar? How would you know if it was broken?
    There is an image of "buying a pig in a poke," making the players an easy mark.
     
  7. fourtwenty68

    fourtwenty68 Board Analyst

    Greg and Haruki,
    do you or can you look and reply to some of the Suggestions in Development/Creative Corner ? :)
     
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  8. DesertKoala

    DesertKoala Forum Pro

    Haruki and Greg,
    Welcome back from your conference. I hope it was good and you are rested. Please set aside 2 hours and login to Tegan server when I am playing and join me for 5v5 PVP. I think you are both too disconnected from the property you represent. Test servers do not count. Logging in as a Orange toon does not count. I want you to login to Tegan and understand basic PVP game mechanics. Then you can start to represent the community properly. We will not judge your play style or skill. Tegan is friendly. You just need to understand this game as played at the highest PVP levels before making cavalier statements about what will potentially improve PVP.
    I look forward to grouping with you both.

    I know we should all be holding our opinion on level expansion until it is released. I get that. I"m asking you both to get involved beyond 'dress up' for Twitch.

    Yours,
    Tregs
     
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  9. thebearreturns

    thebearreturns Exceptional Talent

    I LIKE THAT!, and i find it SPECIALING MOTIVATIONAL in the knowledge tree, and would solve the bad feeling with the new lower stats.
     
  10. sebastian_fl

    sebastian_fl Count Count

    Dear Haruki and the Team, thank you for keeping the feedback loop first of all. I've got a bunch of questions and comments.

    1. Is there a chance people will be rewarded for doing PVP besides spending honor points in the shop? I would rather PVE then and get more. I get it, we do PVP not just for the reward of fame tree, but still.
    2. Is it final, that all the currently obtained honey points will not count towards the new level? I have been PVP-ing exclusively, and got 4 something million points just to be ready. I'm sad about that.
    3. What about the supernova cooldowns? I do like them, as those skills are abused. Please keep them.
    4. The Cyanite Shield cooldown is a bad idea overall, and 1 minute is way to much if we go with that bad idea.
    5. I do not see how the Team fixed the bug-items/low items problem. My friends still have their weapon adornments with 350 crit lines. Are there any LorTac items with higher values?
    6. Is decision to nerf the critical hit final? Actually, it was linear before, in terms of added DPS, not percantage. Perhaps, you would better look into nerfing the critical damage, not the rate?
    7. Did you guys tried to play your real characters with the new system, in terms of the PVP. Tell us what it feels like, what it means to a battles between specific pairs. Does it feel easier/different for DK to fight ranger, ranger to fight mage etc. We cannot test it on the test server, but will surely know it pretty fast when the day comes on the main server.
    8. What is the favorite Dev Team class? :) I know you will say it's diverse. Who is the strongest Dev team player and with what class?
    9. With the new system, it feels that all the classes will be weaker, as we cannot have all the skills we used to have. Not enough points.
    10. One more issue with the critical hit redesign. It will change the entire strategy of balancing the character. It could be, and it is in my case, we have melted lots of items that would be more useful with the new system but not so much with the older. Is there any real 'devaluation' of the older items so the newer would be really better?
    11. Have you thought about converting the Santa cloak into a gem or other kind of attachment to be used with another cloaks?
    12. Have you thought about converting the Cloak of Undefeatable into a gem/attachment/saddle to be used with either a mount or another cloak?

    Thank you
     
    Last edited: Aug 15, 2015
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  11. ULTRAPEINLICH

    ULTRAPEINLICH Forum Duke

    I'll quote myself from the Facebook Twitch comment section (Q&A for Twitch). Thx for your time :)

    Hi,
    I actually have 2 questions, I hope you don't mind.
    First Question:
    Do you have any plans on increasing your server capacities to enhance our gameplay experience? For quite a long time we are - especially on Heredur - struggling with lags and lacking server capacity during big events. I can only imagine how bad this is going to look like after such a big release like the lvl 50 expansion, which will draw a lot of players to your servers at the same time. I think it's about time to expand your servers and lay some focus on such a big game like DSO.

    Second Question:
    Are there any plans to make the results of our testing feedback more visible? Players keep complaining that in the past most of the bugs which have been reported during the testing period still find their way to the live servers. Currently, bug reports are being forwarded by forum moderators (not bigpoint staff) to "someone" and the players don't really know what is happening after this report. A more transparent procedure for such a crucial factor like bug report would be very helpful and motivating for us.
     
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  12. Diego_Gonzales

    Diego_Gonzales Junior Expert

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  13. multitoonz

    multitoonz Forum Great Master

    You do realize that 2016 is going to be bringing a NEW highly anticipated browser game to the western markets right CM's? And with that being said nerfing everyone's characters is really not a smart thing to be doing now is it? All you had to do was add the long missing knowledge, ONE skill and ONE fame. Had you left everything alone and ADDED a buff system to the trees, where we could expand on our current LEFT ALONE SKILLS, say made skill buff points event rewards or something like that, then your new system could have easily been integrated into gameplay seamlessly and with no complaining. By golly then it would have been something positive to look forward to. Skill buffing, woot! But no, we all get nerfed, DK's the hardest as usual, and have to choose now how best to repair the damage done to our toons from DSO personally.
    I do love the non answers we get from the team. It just shows that apparently no one really knows what is going on and this "we'll see how it goes attitude" from DSO is extremely annoying. But you're so sure people will still play the game. The clock is ticking and I see a different future for this game.
     
  14. Durrendal

    Durrendal Padavan

     
  15. daywaker2

    daywaker2 Forum Demigod

    Hello Greg and Haruki. Here is my question. Do you think its fair that activ PvP player not can use their current points for update the new PvP tree? I played years of pvp same like much other players and now we cant use this points for 41-50. Its simply not fair its the same like you would say we cant use our current glyphs of power for 50-55 we must farm them all new. You said you look for the feedback of the players. I made a thread in the German forum see that link http://de.bigpoint.com/drasaonline/board/threads/feedback-ueber-die-neuen-ruhm-talente.59711/ and the most people agree with me that is not fair what are you doing. Please make our current points availble for the pvp 41-50 update. We used many hours for this points and i not want use them in a PvP store for some legends or this black bear...You said you look for the players and their feedback so do it. (Anyway many players well write you when this Patch going live and the see that they cant use their points for updating the tree) Think about this and let us use our points for updating. I am sure if you not listen to us many players will stop playing cause its not fair . I hope you understand that.
     
  16. Theranger

    Theranger Someday Author

    While its true that veterans have farmed honor points for years , it does discourage the newer players to pvp because they have to face 40 fame lvl players in the arena . If newer players start to pvp , more matches will be available , solving at least one of the pvp issues at lvl 45 . Regarding the fame levels, might give seasoned veterans to try newer ways to win matches and might introduce an element of newness in pvp . Let's give the new system a chance before deciding on the flaws.
     
  17. daywaker2

    daywaker2 Forum Demigod

    No Theranger i dont farm years for my honar points for nothing. I dont want to use them in a PvP store. I gave u an example its the same like with the glyphs of power. We can use them too for 50-55 and not must farm them new. Its just unfair. And much guys agree with me if u can see this in that link.
     
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  18. multitoonz

    multitoonz Forum Great Master

    @Durrendal Can't advertise other games on the site, it gets edited or I may get a forum vacation depending on mod mood I guess, just watch some game trailers on youtube, 2016 coming mmo's out of Asian market and look for the game with 18 classes. Then you can research it once you get the title. DSO won't be able to compete with it unless they undergo a serious change.
     
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  19. Novadude

    Novadude Commander of the Forum

    I don't think its fair or unfair. I think its a reasonable choice that can go either way based pn how BP wants to take the game. (I have over a half million excess points in the bank on both my toons, and will probably be around 750,000 or 1 million each by R155 at my current rate).

    If it was up to me, I could see myself doing what BP is doing but reduce the prices and add better or guaranteed stat items to the honor shop. The gap between veterans and rookies is way too big at the moment.
     
    Last edited: Aug 16, 2015
  20. Novadude

    Novadude Commander of the Forum

    No.

    Edit: traki gave a good answer/analogy in another thread, pointing out that nobody accumulated excess experience points beyond the level 45 exp cap doing pve. Its not my answer - I think the whole concept of unfair/ fair is unhelpful in this instance of whether the expansionshould allow useof excess honor points for new fame levels. I think it is just a choice with consequences.
     
    Last edited: Aug 16, 2015
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