2 Handed Weapons (showcase and talk - DK only)

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What 2H Weapon do you prefer over all?

Poll closed Mar 28, 2017.
  1. 2H Sword

    12 vote(s)
    16.7%
  2. 2H Axe

    41 vote(s)
    56.9%
  3. 2H Hammer

    19 vote(s)
    26.4%
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  1. thebearreturns

    thebearreturns Exceptional Talent

    Wisdom words :)
     
  2. Phoro

    Phoro Someday Author

  3. thebearreturns

    thebearreturns Exceptional Talent

    Keep the sword is better
     
  4. DE_GAZA

    DE_GAZA Someday Author

    Is this good for a lv30 Dk? :rolleyes:
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  5. Morinphen

    Morinphen Forum Overlooker

    Not too bad. However, it's a hammer... that's the least favorite DK weapon-type, because it's the slowest. And it has that critical damage line that makes it kinda worse, unless you have big crit. rate (which I assume you don't at lv30). But if it cuts it for you for the time being, it's all good.
     
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  6. DE_GAZA

    DE_GAZA Someday Author

    Thanks for the advice :) I mainly use a sword because of the speed, I have 1.35 attack speed and 40% crit with it
     
  7. Morinphen

    Morinphen Forum Overlooker

    Anyway, finding legendaries at lower levels is always good... I haven't really had that fortune. Anyway, since you're lv30, you just got a new couple of talents to choose from: either to boost your 1H or 2H ability. This can play quite a role for a good 2H DK later on, so keep it in mind if you want to turn into a 2H DK beast at high levels (though, of course, it's not the only thing required). But for now, since you said you're mainly 1H, I suppose you chose the blocking talent. Good luck further ;).
     
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  8. DE_GAZA

    DE_GAZA Someday Author

    I have premium so I switch between the 40% block and 40% 2H dmg whenever I need to. Thank you very much for your awesome advice :rolleyes: and I wish you best of luck with your Dk as well :)
     
  9. Morinphen

    Morinphen Forum Overlooker

    Very nice, then. Glad I could be of help :p, but I don't have a DK :D. Thanks anyway ;).
     
  10. englisch1

    englisch1 Forum Greenhorn

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  11. _Baragain_

    _Baragain_ Living Forum Legend

    Not bad. Too bad it is a hammer. Way too slow for my tastes.
     
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  12. zoldorak

    zoldorak Forum Apprentice

    hello all
    My poor 2H :'(
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    Last edited: Jul 16, 2015
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  13. thebearreturns

    thebearreturns Exceptional Talent

    It isn't bad... just farm more anders and get better rubys... farm gold and go jesters for rubys... get anders from jesters and spend them on rubys... you will pump your dmg this way.... of course... just fill the weapon with rubys :p
     
  14. _Baragain_

    _Baragain_ Living Forum Legend

    And open slots/glyph to 47.
     
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  15. TheDe4thTr4nce

    TheDe4thTr4nce Someday Author

    Since my chr has reached 4500 using these 3 part of Dark set, and still have 4100 even without wearing any weapon adornment at all, I was looking for new claw with critical damage only to increase my crit damage, and.. found this hammer instead. I'm going to keep it for a while till the next update when the dev want to increase value of onyx gem. I have 338% cd with this hammer + that temporary blue claw.

    Has anyone here used similar 2h weapon before? what you guys think?
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  16. _Baragain_

    _Baragain_ Living Forum Legend

    Here is the rule of thumb I use when it comes to crit damage. If you have 50% crit rate (I know you have more, but this is about where I'm at), you only gain half of the crit damage % as a % boost to your DPS/DPH.

    Even adjusting for your 4500 crit rate, that 111% Crit damage only adds 77% more DPS (Or DPH as it is independent of speed). Compare that to if you had some nice damage lines in there with another ~60% weapon damage line and switching to a DPS oriented set. You could easily gain 100% more DPS (compared to gaining 77%) and you wouldn't be dependent on the Dark armor.

    Another thought, this may be great for bosses where you have sustained damage on a single target so the DPS averages out over time, but for regular mobs, there is too much variability, especially considering the wide damage gap of hammers to begin with. Some mobs might only take one hit to kill while others may end up taking 3-4 just due to random chance.

    Also, given that you have to use the Dark armor to make the crit viable, you miss out on the 22.2% max damage from the Witch set, or the 30% weapon damage of the Warlord set, or the 15%-20% all damage of the two top tier Essence sets.

    Further, the Dark armor has no HP and only mediocre armor, so you end up rather squishy even with use of Keen's set.

    Finally, even if you disagree with me on every other point above, this set will not be anywhere nearly as good once R155 gets released in a couple of weeks. They have seriously nerfed Crit rate. That 4500 crit will only get you to about 45%-46% crit chance. By dropping 30% of your crit chance, your better option is to focus on damage and just enjoy what ever crit you end up getting by accident.
     
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  17. Hulk

    Hulk Active Author

    Yes, today just happened the same thing with me, but i need two-three more slot for this weapon and I must search for critical hit rate belt :)
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  18. TheDe4thTr4nce

    TheDe4thTr4nce Someday Author

    Good point. with the losing of chr, damage%, and speed from my current 2h sword, I gotta depend on Dark set and its 35% chr bonus. and I may replace Keen's power to full crit belt to get more crit and losing even more hp and armor. I'm going to wait for R155 to test it but I think this hammer will end up for melt. thx for the inspiration.


    @Hulk
    Yours is better than mine in every stats except yea.. the gem slots.:D
     
  19. bonjourvietnam

    bonjourvietnam Someday Author

    Could you pleas show us some images of offensive items on the test server, i.e. crit rate or 2hand sword speed. I can't login to the test server these days. :(.
    PS: nvm, I saw them in a vid. So sad for 2hand DK, lost 20% speed for 10% more damage and crit rate has been nerf so much.
     
    Last edited: Aug 9, 2015
  20. hempthegreen

    hempthegreen Advanced

    Drakensang may lose many players after this release. I remember was it release 39 when they nerfed the dks . I remember telling myself im quitting! but here i still am lets see what happens.
     
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