Wolves vs Gaurdian

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  1. fourtwenty68

    fourtwenty68 Board Analyst

    this is pain. PvP. ever find urself running from wolves for 15 seconds,i do, lol
    15 sec wolves
    10 sec gaurdian
    and only 1 wolf to mind control. lol,
    change the time on wolves to 10 sec(just in PvP)..fair enough
     
  2. fab

    fab Advanced

    What the real issue is they wolves also got so much resistance like their owner have too, by the time u use fireballs to clear them up ypu have already ran out of mana and force just to use your magical missile which is only 98% or maybe chain of lightning 45%.
    After wolves they use eagle to hit you at a whopping 320% damage, if mark double damage LOLOLOL.
    Really double standard here in dso game, superior armour and dk Hp.
    Mages doesnt have damage that it used to be and has become so weak, cooldown time way too long for singularity.
    Tickets has been sended out too many and nothing is done and yet they complain so much getting killed here or there.
    NOw they wanted invincible characters :D:D:D
    Whats the point having a mage with damage lower, poorer armour and lower hp and critical hit at 50% perform like 40% or lesser:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:
    Nothing is done being fair playing a s a mage:mad:
    This mage is sick and should be excuse from being in the arena
     
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  3. Duriastriker

    Duriastriker Forum Inhabitant

    Takes me max 5 fireballs to kill someones wolves
     
  4. yeomanry

    yeomanry Advanced

    *coughs*
    Chain Lightning spam

    *coughs*
    near 1.80 aspd

    *coughs*
    No Mana consumption

    *coughs*
    Magic Missile Spam

    *coughs*
    No Mana consumption

    *coughs*
    Generates 5 Mana per hit

    *coughs*
    Auto-Stun

    *coughs*
    Teleport is impossible to interrupt unlike Dive and Rage Jump

    *coughs*
    Cynite Shield

    Bias

    *pukes*
     
  5. -DeathRaider-

    -DeathRaider- Forum Pro

    100% agree, mages are harder to defend against becuase it requires resistance(which is like 20 times harder to get then armor).
     
  6. Jettemee

    Jettemee Junior Expert

    Wolves are indeed annoying. Maybe MC should work on all 3 wolves instead of just 1. The time limit is fine since it has a full 1 minute cooldown (or 51 if using PvP talent), whereas Guardian has a 30 second cooldown so really it has a longer length in a span of 1 minute. Personally me, I use Wood Wraith to hold the DK running off with the flag so you don't have to worry about seeing wolves from me. o_O
    Guardians have a lot of HP/armor/resist as well. If you're trying to fight the wolves, you're wasting your time and mana/conc/rage/steam. I try to move around creating an open angle to the caster, or just wait for it to clear up.

    ...and the gazillions of stuns and ice missiles spammed your way.

    And that's why there are mages hitting me with magic missile for 1.5k or more and taking me out with a couple fireballs. It's the highest damage dealing class, definitely not the weakest. Singularity cooldown is fine where it is. Using Astral Phenomenon, you can cast 2 singularities so we don't need shorter cooldowns for something so powerful, in PvP at least. And also, double damage from marking only applies to Precise Shot, Scatter Shot, and Blade Dance; so Bird of Prey is only 250% or 312% depending on talent settings.
     
  7. lewcar

    lewcar Padavan

    Wolves are easily countered with a mind control..
    it renders them almost ineffective since the others turn and attack their brother *sheds a tear*

    Besides, if you're complaining about wolves then I doubt you're very proficient or have a lot of experience in PvP.
    There is a SW forum where you can ask for advice & tactics concerning PvP and countering the other classes.
     
  8. _Baragain_

    _Baragain_ Living Forum Legend

    And as a DK, I love it when wolves are used... I say to myself "Look! Free HP Regen" MWS once or twice and they are dead and I have full HP... can't do that same trick with a Guardian.
     
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  9. BigPapa

    BigPapa Forum Overlooker

    Build a good mage and it wont be a problem. Build a good DK and it wont be a problem. If summoned pets are really a factor in your ability to PVP then its not the pets that are the problem.
     
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  10. fab

    fab Advanced

    And that's why there are mages hitting me with magic missile for 1.5k or more and taking me out with a couple fireballs. It's the highest damage dealing class, definitely not the weakest. Singularity cooldown is fine where it is. Using Astral Phenomenon, you can cast 2 singularities so we don't need shorter cooldowns for something so powerful, in PvP at least. And also, double damage from marking only applies to Precise Shot, Scatter Shot, and Blade Dance; so Bird of Prey is only 250% or 312% depending on talent settings.[/QUOTE]


    The ans is does rangers wolves have much resistance ? the ans is yes
    Duria already mention it takes about 5 fireballs, for me it takes more than that to clear out the path.
    Chain lightning works max up to 3 mobs and its just 45% damage from basic damage
    Rangers and dks got buff skills and yet chances or bonus to score a critical hit id they are lucky enough:confused:
    Maybe those players using a ranger might always agree with those using rangers but not those which is playing as a spellweaver.
    1.5k damage is absolutely nothing compare to 4-5k precision shot landed on armour 3.5k and above:rolleyes:
     
  11. BigPapa

    BigPapa Forum Overlooker

    These "who's bad" discussions are pointless and unfortunately persistent. They are usually started after someone gets their butt handed to them in PVP. As said in all the other similar themed threads after we carry on for three pages it will eventually boil down to-the classes are balanced and YOU are the problem if you can't take advantage of the skills and mechanics that differ between the classes. Search "OP" in the box above and enjoy all the conversations you want going back to the beginning of the game.
     
  12. joe6699

    joe6699 Junior Expert

    Another OP class whining about some other class to keep their OPness, trust me i played deeply in all class, all i can say is there is one class that required less cash and time to reach the OPness state...
     
  13. fab

    fab Advanced

    As like i said earlier , only ranger with side with ranger
    They just cant get enough killing or winning in the arena, without crit they are already hitting in thousands let alone they score a critical hit and that will be 1 shot 1 kill.
    Spellweaver on the other hand depends on critical hits, without them the hit is so pathetic that cant even kill a sick dog.
    I do own 3 charcaters too :D
     
  14. fourtwenty68

    fourtwenty68 Board Analyst


    im an ardent knight of the order,lv45,,fame 38, SW.
    its a prob when my groups wolves spawn around me and dont move,cant teleport all the time,they r always in the way.
    bird of prey with way too much damage +wolves. haha.
    bird of prey should not have that much damage.
    so ya,i hold my own in pvp,im up in leader board.
    but even you archers know the wolves get in your way in your group,and 15 seconds is a long time to run around them.
    just saying if the wolves are in your group,then why cant we run through them.
    hell give me 3 gaudians,or let me spawn a spirit of death that pulls you into hell with 3000+ base damage,,thats fair,right,,"coughs"
     
  15. Kráčajúci

    Kráčajúci Exceptional Talent

    wou
    this game isnt about killing pets. you should try to hit player, or just run.
    pets in pvp are not dmg dealers...they are moving shields.
     
  16. fourtwenty68

    fourtwenty68 Board Analyst

    you should read
     
  17. BigPapa

    BigPapa Forum Overlooker

    Yep, they're a pain in the butt blocking everyone including the summoner. But, they're only there if there is something to attack or all the enemies are dead in which case they go back to the summoner till something else comes in range.

    Sure, well give you three guardians and a spirit of death. And rangers elect with their first draft to get an AOE slow spell and insta teleport and arrows that don't cost mana. In fact, we should just get rid of all the variation in classes and only have one choice of class so we can all be exactly the same with the same skills. Then all these OP class comparison threads would go away.
     
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  18. fourtwenty68

    fourtwenty68 Board Analyst



    um no they dont go back,have you played this game yet or are you just a forum critic?
    seems to me that you dont play or you would know what im talking about.
    i dont want to write to much for you to feed off this,but your intellect is way off base,like always
    everything u say is always,(we will all be the same)
    whats the point in forums if you have that attitude.
    open your mind man,no need for little dumb comments on how your toon will be like my toon.thats not it and u know that.
    with all the bugs n lag this game is frustrating enough,
    u could of left it at "yep,they're a pain.......................................................
     
  19. Darwarren

    Darwarren Count Count

    "Never argue with an EDIT. They will tear you down to their level, then beat you to death with experience."
     
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  20. fourtwenty68

    fourtwenty68 Board Analyst


    naw,,this is not my first rodeo,lol
    ppl at that age are set in there ways,thats all,,change is scary for them.
    and experience i have tons of in lots of things.
    but this game no one here has created and thinks they can dissect it,is far beyond funny.
    my suggestions are suggestions,comments are comments,thats all,it will not make your archer any more like my sw.i dont script this game,i just play it.
    love to pvp these ppl some day,,see whats up. maybe someday,
     
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