Dark Heart cost drop please.

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  1. nasowas

    nasowas Junior Expert

    I understood when you introduced it into game awhile back and offered pieces as event prizes, but it's been a long time now and I think it should be sold like the other pieces as a 1k draken complete piece of unique armor. 2600 draken is a bit steep for armor that is now not the best to use in game with other set combos available. Think about it.
     
  2. p€rRµ$h

    p€rRµ$h Active Author

    if it is not the best and other combo could be used ... ... why would you want to buy it for 1000 draken ;)
     
  3. Hartvig

    Hartvig Forum Inhabitant

    Well, if you don´t think it´s worht it, don´t buy it. Then use the other sets, which you say are better.

    Personally, i think it is a fair prize. It´s a very good piece of armor, and it´s easy to get 2,6k draken now.
     
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  4. Multi-Sev

    Multi-Sev Forum Overlooker

    That was my thought on it too.

    The OP probably wants to stuff it with the new % armor boost gems from the Jesters, but doesn't want to pay full Draken for it :D

    Those of us who have it paid full price for it (or worked to earn the pieces in events). I think the price is fair. If you don't think so, then don't buy it.
     
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  5. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    For me dark armor set is still the best in this game. Even though it was first released full set. And that proves that this game is going backward.
     
  6. nasowas

    nasowas Junior Expert

    LOL, such animosity, especially from you Multi_Sev.
    Better sets, hmm let's see. Red Ess set which not many actually got full but coupled with keens/roshans/yachaks, far better than Dark coupled with the same. Sargon set, MUCH better than the Dark set if you knew what other gear pieces to equip with it. (Sorry, my DK runs full Sargon with Keens and a. has NO armor buff stones on it from Jesters because b. at over 2,0 attack speed it doesn't need any armor buffs). Powerful Witch set is SO INCREDIBLY better than the Dark set it's hilarious. And being incredibly easy to compensate for the combined minimum damage loss with a couple of upgraded rubies, makes having it actually worth the bit of draken they charge for it.
    Of course you will disagree Multi, I didn't agree with your incessant nagging about the Jesters that took up 42 posts. And of course traki will not agree with anything I say because he's the "Voice of the F2P" and anything a P2P has to say about the game is seen as cheating.
    Even the new Jumongs set would be a better gear set up for especially a ranged class. It's just another lesser Sargon HP set but has 5 pieces instead of 3.
    And to answer the question why I would buy it for 1k draken? Because 1k draken is a fair price for a mediocre armor piece that will with lvl 50 become too expensive to upgrade and use. It's crit gear, nothing more lol and there's a ton of crit on rings, amulets and belts that can be acquired.
    And I still want to know why they haven't put the Sargon set in the Gnob offerings as that set for the new players is impossible to attain now. They put 2 witch sets at Gnob, that made a ton of sense didn't it.
     
    Last edited: Nov 12, 2014
  7. bahhumbug

    bahhumbug Forum Apprentice

    The only items fairly priced in game are gems. There is not any other single item available for purchase with coin, andermant or draken that is worth what they charge for it. Gnob is a fail, has been a fail forever now and the foreseeable future says Gnob will remain a fail. And I say coin purchases meaning repair costs and gem swapping. Way too steep for the low drop rate amounts of game coin in game now.
    Oh this is about a gear piece price. It's too expensive. It's ALL too expensive for what each unique piece offers and takes away at the same time.
    And when you think about it, since the game has nothing really to offer except forced unbalanced PvP to break up periods on mind numbing farming, the dark set itself is horrible for a DK trying to run the flag as it offers no HP. So the gear is actually unbalanced fairly for all classes. An SW or ranger can equip it and boost crit by a lot and do that much more damage ranged to a low hp DK trying to survive in PvP who is foolish enough to equip dark gear if they have other higher hp options available.
    My opinion? Give it away to DK's and charge SW's and Rangers double for it.
     
    Last edited: Nov 12, 2014
  8. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    :D:D:D:D go take some sleep. :D:D:D
     
  9. multitoonz

    multitoonz Forum Great Master

    Dark heart...agree with Bahhumbug there, useless for DK in PvP, only good for PvE therefore it should be free for DK. DK's have a complete disadvantage in PvP vs ranged toons equipped with it. Agree that 2600 draken for it is stupidly overpriced but then what isn't over-priced in the game. They will NEVER drop any price in game Nasowas, you should know that by now.
    Think Multi needs to calm down about being not agreed with over the Jesters and items available from them. Have yet to see any player get 45 of those armor buff stones and doubt anyone ever will. My God, dog with a bone. LOL If Nasowas said the sky was blue on a clear day I'm sure you'd disagree with him/her and claim it to be another shade NOT blue and then say how armor buff stones make the sky unfair to someone for some reason.
    Sadly I agree with many of Traki's posts but am P2P so therefore we are and will remain mortal enemies.
    In short I think Bahhumbug had the best post of the thread on the subject. Assuming he/she will NOT be celebrating Christmas?
     
  10. _Baragain_

    _Baragain_ Living Forum Legend

    And I guess I am the voice of balance. I realize that the P2P are a necessary evil in this game :)p) without whom we wouldn't even have a game to play. Yet I also feel that P2P should not unilaterally have the ability to dominate any F2P simply based on how much they have spent on the game. There are tons of P2P games out there that are not P2W and most of the things you can pay real money for in those games are more cosmetic than anything else. Now, moving on...

    Almost any set in this game has purpose if used under the right circumstances. For an average DK with average gems and an average amount of glyphs, the Dark armor is somewhere between "ok" and "garbage". However, if a P2P DK has Cloaked Wrath, there is little to no better build than Dark/Keens with the Dragonache set and a good crit/crit damage weapon decoration. For an average DK with average everything, the Sargon set is amazing. The Which hunter set is awesome for a damage build, but needs to be compensated with some high end gems. The essence set pairs particularly nicely with the Mortis Helm and has the potential for even better damage than the Which set. Of course, let us not forget the Dark Warlord gear which is golden for both 1H and 2H DKs...

    My point here is that one player's trash is another player's treasure. It has been said already in this thread that if you think the Dark Heart is so useless, then why complain the price it too high. It's like saying a BMW is too expensive but you would never drive one because you like a Audi better... makes no sense.

    And on a side note, the reason they put the Which gear in Gnob's shop is because they discontinued the old version of the set and wanted to give people who were working on it an chance to finish it. BP removed the set from the game so they put it in somewhere else. They haven't yet removed the Sargon set from the game. I got the pauldrons this event and I'm sure in the future Dragan events, we will see more pieces of it. Calm down and be patient... It originally took players over half a year to complete the original Sargon set because it was released a piece at a time from the Sargon events, and then they had to complete it again when they released the Powerful version of the set. Do you expect them to just hand over such a useful set without any working or waiting?

    As always, no patience. Some people have a feeling of entitlement and think they deserve everything here and now. Well, Guess what! Not this time so suck it up and either pay for what you want/will use or wait for something better to come along.
     
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  11. BigPapa

    BigPapa Forum Overlooker

    Well said, you can add the defender set to the that list; one piece at a time and at one event a year that is a 5 year/set that people will moan about not being able to get the first pieces for so they will have to offer them in a different way.
     
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  12. multitoonz

    multitoonz Forum Great Master

    Your side note about the witch gear doesn't explain as to why Sargon isn't offered then. There are 2 sets of Sargon, the old "normal", then they switched to the "powerful". There is absolutely then no reason why the old Sargon armor couldn't be offered at Gnob, it doesn't even exist in game anymore. The event Sargon is dropping Powerful items for those lucky enough to get them. I had to melt 2 pieces of the old Sargon set when they changed over as DSO gave us no option to complete the sets when they switched to the powerful. And that is what happened to the old witch set but DSO made sure this time players could buy the missing pieces for it.
    Not really fair for those of us who had to basically throw away decent Sargon gear then was it?
     
  13. nasowas

    nasowas Junior Expert

    Mods you can close this thread. There are a multitude of gear discussions already.
     
  14. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    That is not true!
    Old sargon set is still existing. You can get it if your toon is level 40 or lower.
    This is what I got with my level 40 DK ... in one drop.

    [​IMG]
     
  15. Mal3ficent

    Mal3ficent Guest

    Closing the thread.
     
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